Egyptian Gods

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This is a really long segment, but I think it stands out as a central thesis of the entire course. Also, the illuminati is real.
Mesopotamian Gods: ispulse.info/video/rqLFhoSiiqCgfHg.html
From Jordan B. Peterson's Maps of Meaning Lecture 7:
ispulse.info/video/qmbPbaisnGhxgnw.htmlh56m45s

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  1. Maninder Dhaliwal
    Maninder Dhaliwal
    6 klukkustundum síðan

    <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="773">12:53</a>

  2. Pinky Jangra
    Pinky Jangra
    8 klukkustundum síðan

    Love this man. What a blessing he is 💖

  3. Sam Spade
    Sam Spade
    Degi Síðan síðan

    I like Jordan Peterson but he should stick to what he actually knows. This is not his forte. God is in not a social construct any more than gender is not a social construct.

  4. k k
    k k
    Degi Síðan síðan

    Respect and reverence must be paid to Set though. The thing about this "bad guy" is that he is necessary for the growth that happens. Without his destruction, Osiris' blindness rules forever with no growth. The role of Set is to "set" in motion a system of eternal forward advancement. Evolution can't happen if "weak" mutations are able to survive. Good ideas can't flourish unless bad ideas are torn down. If Osiris is structure, Isis' chaos is possibility. As Osiris' rigid structure takes form, Isis' chaos (possibility) has no place anymore. As that structure begins to solidify, eliminating more and more of Osiris' chaos (possibility), Set destroys it to make room for new possibilities. But the reason it equates to growth is because Isis creates a new structure (the old structure's child) and starts the new growth from a base of what survives the destruction. The part not mentioned in the myth is that this won't be the last time it happens. Horus will grow old, stagnant, and there will be no new possibilities. At that point, Set will tear it down all over again, and we'll rebuild from Horus' child next time. This is why we're seeing a fall in religious belief. The religious structures of today are old and tired, and they have no room for the new possibilities being discovered by us. It's being torn down again. The last part of the puzzle is that Osiris, Isis, Set, and Horus are not their own beings unto themselves. They are ideals that are embodied and represented by different groups of people within any given society. Some people build structures. Others dream up new possibilities that strain to expand past those structures. Others tear down the old structure to make room for those new possibilities. And finally, a new generation builds a new structure from the best pieces of the old and the new (AKA memetic evolution or survival of the fittest cultural ideas). On a macro level, you also see this across eras of time: a time of building, a time of dreaming up new ideas, a tearing down to make room for those new ideas, and a new era of building something new. My final point: this is all to explain WHY Osiris underestimated or had no fear of Set, and is also explained by the "circle of life" in the Lion King example. Osiris/Mufasa is WILLINGLY blind as stated. That means he KNOWS he is old, tired, outdated, and NO GOOD for the new world. He allows Set/Scar to undermine/destroy him for the good of future growth.

  5. Zakaria Adam
    Zakaria Adam
    2 dögum síðan

    Some times I think that YuGiOh was real.

  6. Julien Blanc Dubois
    Julien Blanc Dubois
    3 dögum síðan

    Jordan fails at linguistics.

    1. Sam Spade
      Sam Spade
      20 klukkustundum síðan

      @Julien Blanc Dubois And here is an interesting article on the origins of Zoroastrianism www.harekrsna.com/sun/editorials/08-13/editorials10535.htm

    2. Sam Spade
      Sam Spade
      20 klukkustundum síðan

      @Julien Blanc Dubois Actually he doesn't. The concept of Satan, a rival to God, comes from the period of the Jewish captivity in Babylon and their long exposure to Zoroastrianism. In Zoroastrianism there is the concept of radical dualism of a God and anti-god; Ahura Mazda and Ahriman (aka Angra Mainyu) respectively. This Ahriman entered into Judaism as Satan and thus into other Abrahamic religions. I am sure that if you did some searches especially more scholarly sites you would find a lot more details.

    3. Julien Blanc Dubois
      Julien Blanc Dubois
      Degi Síðan síðan

      @Sam Spade normally I have standards that no one else can live up to, but in this case I would settle for a statement correcting his error in saying that Satan comes from Egyptian Set. It offends my linguistic sensibilities. The 2 words are in no way etymologically related and mentioning the Coptic Christians ignores history. If anything the Satan idea was borrowed from the Persians but the word is Hebrew.

    4. Sam Spade
      Sam Spade
      Degi Síðan síðan

      I like Jordan Peterson but he should stick to what he actually knows. This topic is not his forte. God is in not a social construct any more than gender is not a social construct.

  7. gabriels george
    gabriels george
    4 dögum síðan

    Jordan peterson is talk about civilization of the egypt, and it's how spread through time and effected our thing of morality, wow the egyptian were men whom became because their gods ,Great class tho.

  8. fenderguitargirl
    fenderguitargirl
    6 dögum síðan

    *mindblown*

  9. Michael Lara
    Michael Lara
    7 dögum síðan

    The only God I need is the GOLDEN GOD...Dennis Reynolds.

  10. Captain Titforce
    Captain Titforce
    7 dögum síðan

    Isn't Isis the goddess of magic and not underworld? Osiris became the god of underworld if I remember right? Did Peterson just mix that one up, or is there some interpretations of Isis being the goddess of underworld?

  11. Anuar K
    Anuar K
    9 dögum síðan

    Horus lost his eye Odin also lost his eye 🤔 Quite interesting, besides of all the other similarities mentioned in the video...

  12. James Tangman
    James Tangman
    9 dögum síðan

    I came here expecting Jordan Peterson to describe the philosophical implications of the popularity of Yu-Gi-Oh.

  13. CadillacJak
    CadillacJak
    9 dögum síðan

    Mastermind

  14. submalevolent grace
    submalevolent grace
    10 dögum síðan

    Say Isis in a video, get demonitized lol.

  15. besotheultimate
    besotheultimate
    10 dögum síðan

    As an egyptian , no body told the story the egyptian way better than him

  16. Ryan Sharkey
    Ryan Sharkey
    10 dögum síðan

    Man has been referring to God as he since God's were born. It is an image

  17. heyalex72 Hey
    heyalex72 Hey
    11 dögum síðan

    Cromm laughs at your four winds!

  18. Channel Surfer
    Channel Surfer
    12 dögum síðan

    Told to pay attention all these years, never listened, they just needed to butter me up with an egyptian gods story first.

  19. Nikifuj908
    Nikifuj908
    13 dögum síðan

    Disliked. Mega Ultra Chicken was not mentioned even once.

  20. Fingolfin3423
    Fingolfin3423
    13 dögum síðan

    I've watched a fair amount of Peterson clips, but this is the first time I've seen this one. Wow, this is one of the best to be honest.

  21. TheMoneyMan
    TheMoneyMan
    13 dögum síðan

    The way that Dr. Peterson organises overwhelmingly complex thoughts then regurgitates them through allegorical means and pop-culture references to enthralling and extremely impressive. How great could our next generation be if they absorb the teachings of this great man?

  22. kuhdie jay
    kuhdie jay
    13 dögum síðan

    Gives me chills. Imagine knowing this in a world of religions, where every one is out if their fucking minds and are also blind. Gives me chill. Specially his dissapointed look, his body language says it all.

  23. Juan Duarte
    Juan Duarte
    14 dögum síðan

    Mind blowing

  24. Don
    Don
    15 dögum síðan

    I wish I was in prison, same cell with this man... and just let him speak

  25. N R
    N R
    15 dögum síðan

    Hope he is doing well.

  26. Reese Archer
    Reese Archer
    16 dögum síðan

    So the motifs just naturally emerged? The symbols just so happened to perfectly correspond to naturally occurring competitions and hierarchies and people didnt realize it until now, until you? How could these motifs and archetypal representations have been formed with an unintentional correspondence to real life dynamics? Or are you superimposing a meaning onto a a belief system that originally had an entirely different meaning? How do you know something they didnt even know? It's hard to believe that the priests back then didnt have their own traditional meaning to these symbols that intentionaly corresponded to a reality they knew of. Could it be that you have a particular world view and paradigm which uses data on lobster hierarchies that you are trying to superimpose onto these ancient belief systems out of convenience? Granted, it is extremely coincidental. Another option could be that the symbologies are left so vague that both an original ancient meaning and your meaning to the symbols could be right. Another option could be that they did know and did have the same interpretation you have but somewhere down the line the interpretation got mistranslated. I guess the main question is how do you know they didnt know these symbols mean what you say they mean? The reason why I have a hard time believing these symbols emerged over time is because i dont think the dominance heirarchy is a sociological truth. I think it is an individual truth. Governance doesnt have to operate the way it is outlined here by you. So it is almost as if the governments were intentionally organized around a particular symbology and maybe even in a feedback loop. I dont think the priests who used thesesymbols, when church wasnt separate from state, didn't know what they were doing when literally everything revolved around these symbols. I mean whoever built the pyramids was clearly intelligent enough to have put clear meaning to the symbology. It makes more sense to me that the meaning just got mistranslated over time and then rediscovered or revivified by you years later then to say it was all subconscious imagination paralleling biological and sociological ordering. I mean it takes an awful lot of effort to form a government. The symbols had to intentionally made, right? The priests job was to sort of self reflect for the people. They must have at least had a feedback loop form of conscious subconscious assimilation of these symbols in real time that became less relevant in modern day activities that you are merely reinterpreting to a more or less ignorant audience far removed from the true authentic belief system. Or am I to presume these symbols at one time all had equal footing, that there weren't central deities in the first place and that they just represented aspects of the natural human condition that over time evolved into a recognition of more centrally important biological functions? Do we have a say in our evolutions or are we merely recognizing relevant aspects of an arbitrary existence? I think we have a say because like I saidearlier, governance does not have to follow the schema you outlined. Yes, paying attention is always going to be our greatest tool for individual sovereignty but it isn't necessarily always at the top of the chain of command. For me, it makes sense that religious symbols apply to individuals first and governments second. In which case it would make sense that they'd be intentionally discovered artifacts of self reflection assembled into a meaningful ritual and embodied by intentionally crafted symbolsthat may have been forgotten or mistranslated over time rather than coincidental, emergent and subconscious artwork. It could also be that the translations are vague enough to fit the subjective utility of the interpreter in different times and places and that there is a coincidentally common correspondence of experience in the specifictimes and places that allow for a generally common interpretation of symbols that may otherwise be construed to mean something entirely different in a non corresponding experience. My only concern is that you may be exploring the human condition of the past and generalizing it as the entire human condition rather than recognizing the free will to change the human condition in the future which would require a change in the corresponding symbology of us. Are you considering the potential for change innate to humanity or are you saying this is how we are? Are the archetypes absolute? I can imagine a reality where thinking could be more important than paying attention.

  27. Hmm Hmm
    Hmm Hmm
    16 dögum síðan

    I disagree with Peterson when he portrays the struggle forwards as heroic and majestic... humans have done some very dumb things in the past.

  28. Victor Rice
    Victor Rice
    17 dögum síðan

    Awesome lecture, thanks

  29. n0denz
    n0denz
    18 dögum síðan

    I thought Isis just gathered Osiris' pieces and threw them in the Nile to regenerate him. Then from that point, his skin was green, and he was the ruler of the Underworld. Never knew any of that about Horus.

  30. JX K
    JX K
    18 dögum síðan

    Jordan, we need you. Stay safe

  31. Prakriti
    Prakriti
    18 dögum síðan

    the lion king is based on Hamlet. its intriguing to me to think of the characters in hamlet as Egyptian gods i think a new adaptation is in order.

  32. Hannah White
    Hannah White
    18 dögum síðan

    Why does he always talk like he's in pain?

  33. RedPilled Trooper
    RedPilled Trooper
    19 dögum síðan

    Great story and I love and respect your work Dr.Peterson. one minor correction is when you mentioned around <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="200">3:20</a> about Satan coming from Set. That is incorrect. Ha Shatan is the hebrew word for the adversary. He appears in the book of Job which is the oldest written story of the bible written as old as 6th century BC. And that is just when it was written, as we know the hebrews were story tellers they had kept an oral tradition of the faith and 5 books of the Torah.

  34. Saturian Khazard
    Saturian Khazard
    19 dögum síðan

    Imagine going back in time, showing ancient Egyptians this video, and then they say: "Wow. Well... actually we just thought it was cool story, we didn't go that much into detail-thinking about the whole metaphorical-logic behind it, but sure, why not..."

  35. DIMITRIOS LOVE YOU
    DIMITRIOS LOVE YOU
    20 dögum síðan

    Love this ❤❤❤

  36. Mr Johnson
    Mr Johnson
    20 dögum síðan

    Did he describe meme theory at the start?

  37. Melahel 777
    Melahel 777
    21 degi síðan síðan

    Egypt is African, Osiris is Ausar, Isis is Auset and Horus is Heru so he's not really telling the truth SMH Seeing is not talking about our physical eyes but the 3rd eye always keep that eye open.

  38. Chandler Minh
    Chandler Minh
    21 degi síðan síðan

    This guy is my man-crush

  39. Chandler Minh
    Chandler Minh
    21 degi síðan síðan

    When he starts with "I will tell you a story... " 😍

  40. Buff Awesome
    Buff Awesome
    22 dögum síðan

    And that's why the eye of the pyramid is on the dollar.

  41. Electric
    Electric
    22 dögum síðan

    The gods were aliens in case you didn't already know

  42. Milo X
    Milo X
    22 dögum síðan

    I have no idea what he's talking about but it sounds real intelligent.

  43. Abhilash Das
    Abhilash Das
    22 dögum síðan

    Holy shit, this dude has transcended to spiritualism with the sheer power of his brain

  44. Winston Churchill's Ghost
    Winston Churchill's Ghost
    23 dögum síðan

    The older I get the more I love OLD stories. I sure as fuck am not watching Comic Book movies with my kids. Grown men don't read fucking comic books. Old stories have all the values we need.

  45. Zenowitz22
    Zenowitz22
    23 dögum síðan

    I wish JP told the true version of this story and not the greek one; Set wasn’t banished, Ra put him on his boat to fight Apep (embodiment of pure evil) with him. He realized the purpose of these dark energies and how they needed to be contained and directed

  46. Hades the God
    Hades the God
    24 dögum síðan

    so he didn't even mention exodia once

  47. Jason Smith
    Jason Smith
    24 dögum síðan

    What class is he teaching here?

  48. Luka Skrbic
    Luka Skrbic
    25 dögum síðan

    Ah so triste that there is no subtitle for german or serbian. I would love to show thid my father

  49. Americo Pedroni
    Americo Pedroni
    26 dögum síðan

    The highest moral virtue is freedom. With no rulers Anarchy if you will.

  50. TheLateLateLateShow
    TheLateLateLateShow
    26 dögum síðan

    This is it. Every word.

  51. Jerry 0
    Jerry 0
    26 dögum síðan

    Whoopie GoldBORG

  52. Mere Mortal
    Mere Mortal
    27 dögum síðan

    I wanted this to continue, so desperately...

  53. Nate W.
    Nate W.
    27 dögum síðan

    That was gangstet!

  54. Tomas Bernal
    Tomas Bernal
    27 dögum síðan

    Story time with jordan peterson

  55. Vecthur
    Vecthur
    27 dögum síðan

    This makes me think of the novel American Gods

  56. susza89
    susza89
    27 dögum síðan

    I dont really understand. Jordan is a religious person but at the same time he sees that his beliefs are copied from ancient egiptians. You would think it would make a man like him question it a little bit.

  57. Sentinel Rhino
    Sentinel Rhino
    27 dögum síðan

    Jp is a legend.

  58. ALEXANDRU DREKARU-SOLO
    ALEXANDRU DREKARU-SOLO
    27 dögum síðan

    Mr. Peterson you are incredible . An incredible person and charachter thank u a lot for sharing your knowledge with everyone who are intersted

  59. Aditya Wath
    Aditya Wath
    28 dögum síðan

    JP is a great man, he is not just telling us of the ancient wisdom but also saving us a fuck ton of time in figuring out their meaning by explaining and expanding on them by himself

  60. Al Mere
    Al Mere
    28 dögum síðan

    Degradation of this understanding is being peddled monitoring it and guarding the gates of understanding is so crucial.

  61. Carl Justin Spirit
    Carl Justin Spirit
    28 dögum síðan

    I was amaze and moved by the content, yet I need help on the story that was told by JBP, most that I have read on books and articles online seem to not have the same story, especially what he is saying here. Where did JBP found this Egyptian gods type of story he is talking about?

  62. Southeastern Historic Estates
    Southeastern Historic Estates
    Mánuði síðan

    Holy shit! It keeps coming back to JP

  63. Archeon Wanlorn
    Archeon Wanlorn
    Mánuði síðan

    I'll tell you a story about an egyptian god. If you gather all the pieces of exodia you win.

  64. Joe Homer
    Joe Homer
    Mánuði síðan

    Amazing.

  65. Mr Knarf
    Mr Knarf
    Mánuði síðan

    This was how I imagined university... What a cold shower the real thing was.

    1. kuhdie jay
      kuhdie jay
      56 mínútum síðan

      Thats a shitty comparison, cold showers boost your whole being for the best. Cold BATH is what you mean lmao

    2. Jack Tinker
      Jack Tinker
      5 dögum síðan

      To be fair I had a few classes like this. Good professors and lecturers exist. Unfortunately much of university is actually just teaching you to deal with arbitrary deadlines, bureaucracy, and academic bullying...

    3. DrHillbillyShow
      DrHillbillyShow
      11 dögum síðan

      Too many snowflakes who did not belong in a university complained for too long because they didn't get it, then they complained because they didn't pass courses, then they complained because they weren't scoring in the top tiers and now we have majors like 'women's studies.'

    4. Cerberus
      Cerberus
      13 dögum síðan

      I must have been lucky and got some really good professors, because my time in university was actually fairly enjoyable, with some minor exceptions.

    5. kuhdie jay
      kuhdie jay
      13 dögum síðan

      Whew

  66. Hermin Lionel
    Hermin Lionel
    Mánuði síðan

    Poor guy. I miss him.

  67. The Dude
    The Dude
    Mánuði síðan

    I really wish he was my professor when I went to college

  68. YoungGrasshopper
    YoungGrasshopper
    Mánuði síðan

    This is wisdom of the ages. What a privilege to witness!

  69. Mathieu Brelière
    Mathieu Brelière
    Mánuði síðan

    When I watch these videos I feel I'm gaining IQ points.

  70. the new
    the new
    Mánuði síðan

    super brilliant...as always

  71. sabin97
    sabin97
    Mánuði síðan

    the inspiration for horus is the same as for jesus and other dead-and-resurrected demigods.

  72. Matthewlh
    Matthewlh
    Mánuði síðan

    Why do I want to know this? Who gives a flying f

  73. SALmetalseven
    SALmetalseven
    Mánuði síðan

    It seems that evil always tries to make its way into good things and reverse them. An example is the all seeing eye turned into the symbol of the Illuminati. The swastika which is the symbol of peace in many Indian religions turned into the Nazi's symbol. I'm sure there's more examples but I got something good out of this. God bless Peterson.

  74. freethinker1
    freethinker1
    Mánuði síðan

    Actually the Lion King is also about the 2 factions of the mystery religion of Babylon that have been at war for many centuries. Christianity is likely an invention of the flavian dynasty according to Joseph Atwill.

  75. SimplyLimbo
    SimplyLimbo
    Mánuði síðan

    I suddenly realize that we ALL have to loose our eye. Confront the darkness, so you may know it, and be able to beat it, instead of surprised and crushed by it. The same why Christ didnt shy away from the confrontation with satan. Or his fear in the garden at the end. Or "Jungs" shadow, or Faust, and mephisto's influence, etc. Glad i found this one.

  76. God Emperor
    God Emperor
    Mánuði síðan

    This the worst telling and most fragmented version of this classic story I have ever heard. I would hate to have this guy as an actual professor. :) He kind of takes things that are mostly true, and uses them to extrapolate to prove his points, but anyone could make similar extrapolations that make sense in these vague context, but really are not any sort of proof. Like I could say that "Aluminum was chosen to place at the top of the Washington Monument Obelisk to protect it from lightning" (which is true) and then say "which just shows how the pinnacle of the pyramid -- 'that awareness' -- can survive even God's judgement -- the divine bolt" (which I just pulled out my ass, much like half the things he said, but it sounds just as cool, and provides just as much connective tissue for its validity). By the way, in this over simplified version that he is presenting here, Jordan Person is the Osiris before you. He embodies the clueless old institutional persona of the four he talks about.

  77. Alex Taubin
    Alex Taubin
    Mánuði síðan

    Just realized how blatant thor ragnarock was to this story, even down to getting his eye removed.

    1. Richie Tk
      Richie Tk
      29 dögum síðan

      *insert* "ohhh ye, it's all coming together" meme

    2. Mr Knarf
      Mr Knarf
      Mánuði síðan

      Thor Ragnarok took most of its mythology from the nose myths, and there too you have Odin, one eyed, who gave the other for wisdom, with his two crow huginn and muninn (thought and memory, birds like Horus the Falcon), Thor the young god, strong but stupid, and Loki who's very cunning, and often evil, but not always... Mythologies have lots of things in common, as Peterson said in the first part of this speech.

  78. jon smith
    jon smith
    Mánuði síðan

    I have met Horus three times

  79. Lorenzo Syquia
    Lorenzo Syquia
    Mánuði síðan

    This was perhaps one of the most enjoyable Peterson videos I watched [aside from his debating SJWs]

  80. Afshin Salehi
    Afshin Salehi
    Mánuði síðan

    This lecture is eternally needed for humanity.