Why CGP Grey is Wrong (Monarchical Terminology)

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Vatican City Explained by @CGP Grey
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Chart/Narration: Matt Baker
Audio Editing: @Jack Rackam
Intro animation: @Al Muqaddimah
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  1. CJ Wall
    CJ Wall
    2 dögum síðan

    I think that was just a mistake made through oversimplification, but what do I know :P

  2. Carolus
    Carolus
    2 dögum síðan

    Germany was an Empire (Reich or Kaiserreich) because there was kingdoms, duchies and other monarchs within itself, there was the Kingdom of Prussia, Bavaria and Saxony and the others, but the contitutions told the German Kaiser was the King of Prussia and was hereditary, so it is ok to call it "Reich" or Empire, cause really he was King of Kings

  3. Angus Irvine
    Angus Irvine
    3 dögum síðan

    The Duke of Edinburgh doesn't actually have the title Prince Consort, this was rejected in period between 1952 and 1957 when discussion were made about him being elevated to princely rank. It was settles that His Royal Highness should the style of a Prince of the United Kingdom and henceforth be known as His Royal Highness The Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh [etc.]. As princely dukes rank above princes without dukedoms the shortest version of His Royal Higness's style is HRH The Duke of Edinburgh.

  4. المشاهد العادي
    المشاهد العادي
    3 dögum síðan

    I also studied the Monarch terms in the middle East, like: Emir, Malik, Caliph, Sultan, Caesar (Kaisar), khan, .. I found the answer by studing the roots, and what they ment when the first monarch of that term get his name, and it was different than what today people think. For example, people think that Malik is translated to King, however that is not.

  5. Freedom Loving Loyalist
    Freedom Loving Loyalist
    4 dögum síðan

    Wheres KIMY?

  6. Garret Burkholder
    Garret Burkholder
    4 dögum síðan

    Would the monarch of Monaco be 'the Monarcho'?

  7. Mr Fotter
    Mr Fotter
    4 dögum síðan

    damn I thought it was Cardinal George Pell

  8. Mel Anthony Acuavera
    Mel Anthony Acuavera
    6 dögum síðan

    does this mean that Queen Elizabeth II is, in technical terms, an Empress?

    1. Nate Bryant
      Nate Bryant
      3 dögum síðan

      Mel Anthony Acuavera no. The kingdoms of Scotland and England ceased being a thing. In 1707 They dissolved and the kingdom of Great Britain took its place. While she is the queen of Canada, that is a completely separate realm. It’s like she has two distinct jobs.

  9. Mel Anthony Acuavera
    Mel Anthony Acuavera
    6 dögum síðan

    "a monarchy within a monarchy" I thought I am in the inception movie

  10. Mommyhohhot
    Mommyhohhot
    7 dögum síðan

    at 1.5x speed he sounds like grey

  11. Jeffrey Herrera
    Jeffrey Herrera
    9 dögum síðan

    7:17 - 7:30 So, I guess that means Voltaire was wrong on one front in that adage of his?

  12. Sadman Pranto
    Sadman Pranto
    12 dögum síðan

    I'd like to add a few more... Samrat, Maharani (female version of Maharaja), Sultana (female version of Sultan), Badshah Akbar the great was written both as Samrat and Badshah (If I know correctly)

  13. Yanah Pacs
    Yanah Pacs
    13 dögum síðan

    Hmmm ok one question. If empire means a kingdom that reigns other kingdoms...would that mean UK is actually an empire bcause it consists of many countries not just great britain?

  14. Karl Karlos
    Karl Karlos
    13 dögum síðan

    So there are technical three type of princes - sovereign Prince, the sone of a king and finally the husband of a reigning queen (prince consort).

  15. Comic Strider
    Comic Strider
    14 dögum síðan

    Quarantine made me watch a smart stickman correct another smart stickman about monarchy

  16. John Fleming
    John Fleming
    15 dögum síðan

    Philip doesn’t use the title Prince Consort. He is simply a Prince of the United Kingdom and the Duke of Edinburgh, similar to his son Andrew and grandson William. Parliament never gave him the title Prince Consort. I gather that it was because they didn’t want him getting delusions of running things himself. Albert, husband of Queen Victoria, was given the title Prince Consort because he didn’t have any other title himself. Philip was born a prince of Greece and Denmark himself, but he gave up those titles and became a British citizen to marry Elizabeth, who was at that point still a princess.

  17. SwordsmanRyan
    SwordsmanRyan
    17 dögum síðan

    Only Christ is King.

  18. Theo Bolt
    Theo Bolt
    17 dögum síðan

    And this raises another issue. Where stand princes and dukes to one another? As a rule, a prince is of higher rank than a duke! So, an princedom should have a greater area? I'm not totally convinced by your statement that duchies have a greater area than princedoms as a rule. Look at the UK. We have the Prince of Wales! All the other dukes have way smaller territories! But the again, I'm not a real authority on the matter. Some further explanation would be appreciated.

  19. Tamás Tasi
    Tamás Tasi
    17 dögum síðan

    Matt: So a monarch is someone who has the position for life. *shows picutre of Queen Elizabeth II* The Queen: *laughs in inmortality*

  20. Intergalactical Commitee of Procrastination
    Intergalactical Commitee of Procrastination
    18 dögum síðan

    Titles are messy business. You can't say it was based on territory because it wasn't. Grand Duchy of Lithuania (was once a kingdom but not at the time relevent) was at one point the biggest country in Europe I believe, and maintained a pretty large territory up until Commonwealth (or partitions if you view Commonwealth as still divided territorically (which it kinda was)). Didn't Austria also have archdukes? They were a pretty big country and arguably very influential. Maria Theresa went around fighting with European kings no problem. I agree that pope isn't a king. He's someone that can grant an emperor's title (at least for early middle ages), who in turn can grant people king titles (late middle ages), so it's natural to assume he's above the emperor, who is above the king. I think the best possible answer is politics are weird and messy. Just to answer why this specific person held this specific title in ENGLISH LANGUAGE is a study of thousand years of European (if European monarch) and world (if non-European monarch) history. It's 4: 34 a.m. so any mistakes I made I chalk up to sleep deprivation. Good night

  21. Farrel Permadi
    Farrel Permadi
    19 dögum síðan

    Maharaja?? Wait, hang on, reminds me of ...

  22. Farrel Permadi
    Farrel Permadi
    19 dögum síðan

    Ok, Pls don't mind me of Kim Jong Un, hahaha

  23. Tyler Hobbs
    Tyler Hobbs
    19 dögum síðan

    So in a game of thrones, if each area is considered a kingdom within the seven kingdoms, then the wardens are actually kings. Meanwhile the king of Westeros is actually an emporer and the official name should be the Empire of Westeros?

  24. Ussurin
    Ussurin
    20 dögum síðan

    Meanwhile Poland. We had 2 kings at once. Twice. Both times one of them were a female. One of the females ruled on their own. Still king. Also, alternative method of becoming an Emperor: Conquering Moscow and then making boyars crown you a Tsar. Works if your father isn't a catholic fanatic that forbids you from changing faith to orthodox and is the one in control of the armies that got you the Moscow.

  25. Jonathan Harris
    Jonathan Harris
    20 dögum síðan

    Is the pope is Caesar then he is king ! Find out if the pope has declared himself Caesar and therefore king ! Or would you have us believe that the czar of Russia wasn’t king and monarch

  26. SkullKnight
    SkullKnight
    23 dögum síðan

    0:32 Thank you Kim jong-un, VERY COOL!

  27. Philosophy
    Philosophy
    27 dögum síðan

    9:04 small mistake: Philip is not "Prince Consort". The only British consort to be styled "Prince Consort" was Albert, Prince Consort in 1857. Philip was first raised to the peerage as the Duke of Edinburgh and then made a Prince as Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, not "Prince Consort".

  28. Sam Butler
    Sam Butler
    28 dögum síðan

    The British Empire wasn't ruled by an emperor, but the king/queen was also the Emperor of India while India was within the British Empire.The rules are all just kind of made up as they went along and different places used different ones.

  29. cricochea
    cricochea
    29 dögum síðan

    R eeeeee gent

  30. Kuesa
    Kuesa
    Mánuði síðan

    The name of the emperor in Japan is "Yamato", not "Yamoto" btw

  31. Nikola Goleš
    Nikola Goleš
    Mánuði síðan

    1:50 Is that the definition? I mean, you are picking hairs with this video so I thought I'd point out that the literal meaning of the word "monarch" is "someone who rules alone", not necessary for life. Though I must say that I myself don't know how I would exactly define the term, since there are many more criteria that differentiate what we intuitively call monarchs from, let's say, communist dictators.

  32. Deutsch Amerikaner
    Deutsch Amerikaner
    Mánuði síðan

    Princeps means leader in Latin, so Prince meaning leader makes more sense than one might think.

  33. postlim
    postlim
    Mánuði síðan

    such clikbait, still interesting

  34. John Moore
    John Moore
    Mánuði síðan

    It’s clear you watch a lot of cop grey because you are technically correct the best kind of correct

  35. GtdAquataine
    GtdAquataine
    Mánuði síðan

    This is the kind of hair-splitting terminology correction that we CGP Grey watchers love.

  36. ExtremUnknownAl
    ExtremUnknownAl
    Mánuði síðan

    language is not a fixed construct, it is fluent and made by the people who speaks it. If enough people use the 'wrong' terminology for a ruler, it becomes at some point the true terminology.

  37. TheYabbyman
    TheYabbyman
    Mánuði síðan

    In China, the term emperor 皇帝 does not have a gender, that means that China only had one female emperor, but many empresses.

  38. Cory Mck
    Cory Mck
    Mánuði síðan

    Does that mean mayors run municipalities?

  39. Kamuka1024
    Kamuka1024
    Mánuði síðan

    Why is the Pope wearing an Umberella scarf? o_O

  40. deathzombee
    deathzombee
    Mánuði síðan

    Sealand is the smallest country

  41. Z Y
    Z Y
    Mánuði síðan

    "Originally, Japan was divided into a bunch of smaller kingdoms. Or: at least something similar to kingdoms." This video casually commits the same "mistake" as CGP Grey, therefore proving that CGPG was not wrong in the first place. First, the many polities of Japan did not have monarchs titled "kings", so it's strictly incorrect, by UsefulChart's standard, to call them "kingdoms". But are they something "similar to kingdoms"? No -- not all of them have monarchical governments. But was UsefulCharts' statement really wrong? Not really; it's just fine. Like it's just fine to use "king" as a generic term for a monarchical ruler, like how CGPG did for the Pope, and like how the most of the rest of the world does all the time. It's only wrong by the most knit-picky standard that UsefulCharts based this whole video on. UsefulCharts also makes the common mistake of believing in the clear correspondence of ruler and state titles. Reality can be messy. A king doesn't always reign over a kingdom, and a kingdom doesn't always have a king. Still, I liked the video overall -- I just wish the UsefulCharts didn't feel the need to fling mud at another creator for the sake of some clickbaity controversy.

    1. UsefulCharts
      UsefulCharts
      Mánuði síðan

      It was all meant in good fun. Pretty sure Grey would understand that. So... no mud flung.

  42. House Mannix
    House Mannix
    Mánuði síðan

    "The Pope is a King" - Kim Jong Un

  43. Baard Ove Kopperud
    Baard Ove Kopperud
    Mánuði síðan

    What game (or whatever) is shown at 5:27 ? Looks a bit like Europa Universalis, but...

  44. Robyn Kolozsvari
    Robyn Kolozsvari
    Mánuði síðan

    The technical term for "king" in French is "sans sa tête" and I think that's beautiful

  45. Rafa Gómez
    Rafa Gómez
    Mánuði síðan

    I think it would have been quite a tasty commentary to say that Hirohito was, before the WWII ending, a God and then, after the defeat of Japan, becoming a mortal

  46. Lithunoisan Hussars
    Lithunoisan Hussars
    Mánuði síðan

    If you die while being the president Do you become a dead monarch?

  47. slothfulcobra
    slothfulcobra
    Mánuði síðan

    The terminology is mostly bullshit. Not just because often people would randomly amp up their title to do declare something meaningless like the fact that they're a "grand" duke instead of just plain duke, but because most of the terminology is just some ad-hoc thing where titles were transliterated as whatever english-speaking scholars thought was most convenient at the time. Sure, they'd try to use related etymologies when they could, like with Imperators, but there's no hard rules for translation. For a time, scholars used to translate the Japanese emperor's title as "pope" because that was essentially what he was most analogous to at the time. A mostly powerless figurehead whose main influence was granting legitimacy to the actual ruler, in his case the Shogun

  48. · 0xFFF1
    · 0xFFF1
    Mánuði síðan

    ALL MEN ARE KINGS! Manarcho-Syndicalism

  49. Mason Craig
    Mason Craig
    Mánuði síðan

    When you want to critique one of your favorite channels but then go on the possibly the longest and most pedantic spiel about monarchs. Must say, first video I have seen from you and I already love it.

  50. Omar Goodman
    Omar Goodman
    Mánuði síðan

    Two questions. 1) Is the "Prince of Thieves" the monarch of The Principality of Thievery, or is he simply the son of the King of Thieves? 2) Would the child of an Emperor/Empress still be a Prince/Princess, or do they have special imperial-tier terms?

  51. Syriusz B
    Syriusz B
    Mánuði síðan

    1:50 So, Putin is a monarch?

  52. Thomas McElroy
    Thomas McElroy
    Mánuði síðan

    Sometimes empires are quite large, like the Roman empire. But others are quite small, like the Roman empire.

  53. Jerry Swetlow
    Jerry Swetlow
    Mánuði síðan

    where do electores fit in ?

  54. Theepicplays1
    Theepicplays1
    Mánuði síðan

    next up : boxing match against CGP grey and UsefulCharts

  55. Tophat Metagross
    Tophat Metagross
    Mánuði síðan

    I threw up seeing the HRE.

  56. FG Ó Conghailie
    FG Ó Conghailie
    Mánuði síðan

    it is monarchical, I just checked on the internet

  57. Roshi
    Roshi
    Mánuði síðan

    Isn't pope a theocrat? Or whatever the term is for a state based on theocracy

  58. Mathieu Leader
    Mathieu Leader
    Mánuði síðan

    I'm just here to see if he commented

  59. Marie Bonham
    Marie Bonham
    Mánuði síðan

    I LOVE this channel... Just discovered it... Glad I did

  60. Shawman Null
    Shawman Null
    Mánuði síðan

    The fifth way to become an emperor is to conquer

  61. Zack McClean
    Zack McClean
    Mánuði síðan

    All I've learned from this is that the existence of Princess Peach means there's a King or Queen Peach, or we've been incorrectly calling it the Mushroom Kingdom, instead of the Mushroom Principality.

    1. Kyle Netherwood
      Kyle Netherwood
      5 dögum síðan

      Maybe he is ill and Peach is his regent

    2. flipples nipples
      flipples nipples
      10 dögum síðan

      There is a mushroom King, we just almost never see him except in some old manuals.

  62. Nathan Jarboe
    Nathan Jarboe
    Mánuði síðan

    What is a jack?

  63. Euler
    Euler
    Mánuði síðan

    Pedantic, technically correct, nitpicking, not condescending video. I love it

  64. Heika
    Heika
    Mánuði síðan

    I wish you would have also explained Empress Dowagers when discussing female monarchs

  65. SWLinPHX
    SWLinPHX
    Mánuði síðan

    The term “Caesar” for a Roman emperor came to be because of the first Roman ruler Julius Caesar, who ironically was not an emperor. His nephew Octavian succeeded him and became the first emperor known as Augustus Caesar. It is he who the month is named after and he is also the one that took down Mark Antony and Cleopatra, who had had an affair with both Antony and his uncle Julius.

    1. Link Maxwell
      Link Maxwell
      Mánuði síðan

      Caesar would later become used for the guy(s) under the Emperor, in a way that most of us would think about the title "Prince" (not the ruler).

  66. Victor Ramos
    Victor Ramos
    Mánuði síðan

    you forgot to explain where does the monarch butterfly fits into this terminology

  67. The Dimensionist
    The Dimensionist
    Mánuði síðan

    I feel like the title should be Monarchial Terminology with something about CGPGrey in parenthesis. 90% of the video isn't about CGPGrey at all, so why does the title sound like you will be ripping on Grey for 9 mins on just how wrong he is on a video from 7 years ago?

  68. Marcus Tullius Cicero
    Marcus Tullius Cicero
    Mánuði síðan

    Actually, the nowadays common definition of prince arose from the original definition. Because back in medieval times a ruler's heir was supposed to get some time in ruling some smaller fiefdom before being given the realm to lord over if he intended for his rule to be of any success. Also "kings generally hold more territory then Dukes"? Lithuania would like a word ;P. In Europe there were actually lots of rules on who could become king and where. For example, when the Margraves of Brandenburg sought a royal title, the opted for that of Prussia instead for their actualy power base. Why? Because Brandenburg was part of the kingdom of Germany whereas Prussia wasn't. So in order to not offend the King of Germany, they adopted Prussia as their royal titled (and technically were still nought but margraviates in Brandenburg itself). Also not only empires can have "monarchies within monarchies" - every single realm of medieval Europe had such a system, be they dukes or emperors. Also always worth pointing out that there technically were never any non-European "emperors", we simply have come to equate other titles with it. For example Cyrus was Shahanshah (King of Kings), Zara Yaqob was Negus Negast (King of Kings), the Inca Empire was ruled by a Sapa Inkan (the only Inca) while the ruler of Japan is the Tenno (heavenly sovereign).

  69. Joshua Dorie
    Joshua Dorie
    Mánuði síðan

    You got the amount of types of queens wrong. :D

  70. Dustin Manke
    Dustin Manke
    Mánuði síðan

    Are there any good books on this kind of stuff?

  71. Blacque Jacques Shellacque
    Blacque Jacques Shellacque
    Mánuði síðan

    I declared myself an emperor after a moistened bink lobbed a scimitar at me.

  72. William Smith
    William Smith
    Mánuði síðan

    We, the British, by virtue of the 39 Articles, define the Bishop of Rome to be a foreign prince. Therefore he is a foreign prince. The bIshop of Rome hath no jurisdiction over this realm of England. Who the hell are you to contradict the British?

  73. ZenAlphaKids
    ZenAlphaKids
    Mánuði síðan

    UsefulCharts sounds like UselessCharts

  74. Jeremy West
    Jeremy West
    Mánuði síðan

    Why isnt queen Elizabeth II an empress

    1. brmbly
      brmbly
      Mánuði síðan

      Because the British empire doesn't exist anymore. She was technically the Empress of India in the past

  75. Seph
    Seph
    Mánuði síðan

    The name of the current emperor's Japanese kingdom was Yamato, not Yamoto ;-) Also, you could definitely argue that he still rules over a number of distinct people groups, since the Ryukyu Kingdom was only taken less than 150 years ago. Hokkaido, which is home to the Ainu people, was also only integrated into Japan around that time. The Japanese did pretty aggresive integration back then, so today there aren't that many people living there who consider themselves distinctly Ryukyuan or Ainu, but they are technically distinct cultural groups ruled by one monarch - an emperor. (There is also the fact that the emperor isn't really calling himself an emperor. He's the Tennouheika - Heavenly Ruler. If anything, his title implies dominion over all everything, but not really in a specific way like emperor does.)

  76. Sascha Bachmann
    Sascha Bachmann
    Mánuði síðan

    I find your thumbnail too unnecessarily aggressive.

  77. Darkfireice
    Darkfireice
    Mánuði síðan

    Well, Athens as a city state had Kings, so that's one argument down. Second, the Pope is the head of God's Kingdom on Earth, so there that. And the titles are wrong, or at least your implication, the hierarchy of titles was very important, by saying the Pope is not a King, his rank would be under anyone with a higher title, basically if the Pope is not a King he would have to address Queen Elizabeth II as his superior, which would be a bit odd

    1. Darkfireice
      Darkfireice
      Mánuði síðan

      @Ma Pa he did not crown then as King of a state, but as the representative of God, and yes initially the Pope was under the Emperors. Feudalism was insane, for an insane time.

  78. bradwatson7324
    bradwatson7324
    Mánuði síðan

    "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." (I know Diderot didn't say it quite this way, but he should have. And while I don't condone violence, I do think that mankind would be much better off without religions and governments.)

  79. Chris Cruthirds
    Chris Cruthirds
    Mánuði síðan

    Awesome man keep it up! Great behind the scenes interesting information, which is why I follow you! Keep it up!

  80. Paul Glotzer
    Paul Glotzer
    Mánuði síðan

    The final points of the video are plainly wrong. I didn’t listen carefully to the whole video, but I suspect there are countless other similar errors throughout. First, there are three, not two types of queens: queen consorts and queen regnants, both of which you mentioned, and dowager queens, which you didn’t. Second, Prince Philip is indeed ERII’s consort, but he is NOT a “prince consort”, unlike Prince Albert (Queen Victoria’s husband), who was.